第2章

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WhenThrasymachushasbeensilenced,thetwoprincipalrespondents,GlauconandAdeimantus,appearonthescene:here,asinGreektragedy,threeactorsareintroduced。AtfirstsightthetwosonsofAristonmayseemtowearafamilylikeness,likethetwofriendsSimmiasandCebesinthePhaedo。Butonanearerexaminationofthemthesimilarityvanishes,andtheyareseentobedistinctcharacters。Glauconistheimpetuousyouthwhocan\"justneverhaveenoughoffechting\"(cf。thecharacterofhiminXen。Mem。iii。6); themanofpleasurewhoisacquaintedwiththemysteriesoflove; the\"juvenisquigaudetcanibus,\"andwhoimprovesthebreedofanimals;theloverofartandmusicwhohasalltheexperiencesofyouthfullife。Heisfullofquicknessandpenetration,piercingeasilybelowtheclumsyplatitudesofThrasymachustotherealdifficulty;heturnsouttothelighttheseamysideofhumanlife,andyetdoesnotlosefaithinthejustandtrue。ItisGlauconwhoseizeswhatmaybetermedtheludicrousrelationofthephilosophertotheworld,towhomastateofsimplicityis\"acityofpigs,\"whoisalwayspreparedwithajestwhentheargumentoffershimanopportunity,andwhoiseverreadytosecondthehumorofSocratesandtoappreciatetheridiculous,whetherintheconnoisseursofmusic,orintheloversoftheatricals,orinthefantasticbehaviorofthecitizensofdemocracy。HisweaknessesareseveraltimesalludedtobySocrates,who,however,willnotallowhimtobeattackedbyhisbrotherAdeimantus。Heisasoldier,and,likeAdeimantus,hasbeendistinguishedatthebattleofMegara。 ThecharacterofAdeimantusisdeeperandgraver,andtheprofounderobjectionsarecommonlyputintohismouth。Glauconismoredemonstrative,andgenerallyopensthegame。Adeimantuspursuestheargumentfurther。Glauconhasmoreofthelivelinessandquicksympathyofyouth;Adeimantushasthematurerjudgmentofagrown—upmanoftheworld。Inthesecondbook,whenGlauconinsiststhatjusticeandinjusticeshallbeconsideredwithoutregardtotheirconsequences,Adeimantusremarksthattheyareregardedbymankindingeneralonlyforthesakeoftheirconsequences;andinasimilarveinofreflectionheurgesatthebeginningofthefourthbookthatSocratesfallsinmakinghiscitizenshappy,andisansweredthathappinessisnotthefirstbutthesecondthing,notthedirectaimbuttheindirectconsequenceofthegoodgovernmentofaState。Inthediscussionaboutreligionandmythology,Adeimantusistherespondent,butGlauconbreaksinwithaslightjest,andcarriesontheconversationinalightertoneaboutmusicandgymnastictotheendofthebook。ItisAdeimantusagainwhovolunteersthecriticismofcommonsenseontheSocraticmethodofargument,andwhorefusestoletSocratespasslightlyoverthequestionofwomenandchildren。 ItisAdeimantuswhoistherespondentinthemoreargumentative,asGlauconinthelighterandmoreimaginativeportionsoftheDialogue。Forexample,throughoutthegreaterpartofthesixthbook,thecausesofthecorruptionofphilosophyandtheconceptionoftheideaofgoodarediscussedwithAdeimantus。ThenGlauconresumeshisplaceofprincipalrespondent;buthehasadifficultyinapprehendingthehighereducationofSocrates,andmakessomefalsehitsinthecourseofthediscussion。OncemoreAdeimantusreturnswiththeallusiontohisbrotherGlauconwhomhecomparestothecontentiousState;inthenextbookheisagainsuperseded,andGlauconcontinuestotheend。 ThusinasuccessionofcharactersPlatorepresentsthesuccessivestagesofmorality,beginningwiththeAtheniangentlemanoftheoldentime,whoisfollowedbythepracticalmanofthatdayregulatinghislifebyproverbsandsaws;tohimsucceedsthewildgeneralizationoftheSophists,andlastlycometheyoungdisciplesofthegreatteacher,whoknowthesophisticalargumentsbutwillnotbeconvincedbythem,anddesiretogodeeperintothenatureofthings。Thesetoo,likeCephalus,Polemarchus,Thrasymachus,areclearlydistinguishedfromoneanother。NeitherintheRepublic,norinanyotherDialogueofPlato,isasinglecharacterrepeated。 ThedelineationofSocratesintheRepublicisnotwhollyconsistent。InthefirstbookwehavemoreoftherealSocrates,suchasheisdepictedintheMemorabiliaofXenophon,intheearliestDialoguesofPlato,andintheApology。Heisironical,provoking,questioning,theoldenemyoftheSophists,readytoputonthemaskofSilenusaswellastoargueseriously。ButinthesixthbookhisenmitytowardstheSophistsabates;heacknowledgesthattheyaretherepresentativesratherthanthecorruptersoftheworld。Healsobecomesmoredogmaticandconstructive,passingbeyondtherangeeitherofthepoliticalorthespeculativeideasoftherealSocrates。 InonepassagePlatohimselfseemstointimatethatthetimehadnowcomeforSocrates,whohadpassedhiswholelifeinphilosophy,togivehisownopinionandnottobealwaysrepeatingthenotionsofothermen。ThereisnoevidencethateithertheideaofgoodortheconceptionofaperfectStatewerecomprehendedintheSocraticteaching,thoughhecertainlydweltonthenatureoftheuniversalandoffinalcauses(cp。Xen。Mem。i。4;Phaedo97);andadeepthinkerlikehiminhisthirtyorfortyyearsofpublicteaching,couldhardlyhavefalledtotouchonthenatureoffamilyrelations,forwhichthereisalsosomepositiveevidenceintheMemorabilia(Mem。i。2,51 foll。)TheSocraticmethodisnominallyretained;andeveryinferenceiseitherputintothemouthoftherespondentorrepresentedasthecommondiscoveryofhimandSocrates。Butanyonecanseethatthisisamereform,ofwhichtheaffectationgrowswearisomeastheworkadvances。Themethodofinquiryhaspassedintoamethodofteachinginwhichbythehelpofinterlocutorsthesamethesisislookedatfromvariouspointsofview。 ThenatureoftheprocessistrulycharacterizedbyGlaucon,whenhedescribeshimselfasacompanionwhoisnotgoodformuchinaninvestigation,butcanseewhatheisshown,andmay,perhaps,givetheanswertoaquestionmorefluentlythananother。 Neithercanwebeabsolutelycertainthat,Socrateshimselftaughttheimmortalityofthesoul,whichisunknowntohisdiscipleGlauconintheRepublic;noristhereanyreasontosupposethatheusedmythsorrevelationsofanotherworldasavehicleofinstruction,orthathewouldhavebanishedpoetryorhavedenouncedtheGreekmythology。Hisfavoriteoathisretained,andaslightmentionismadeofthedaemonium,orinternalsign,whichisalludedtobySocratesasaphenomenonpeculiartohimself。ArealelementofSocraticteaching,whichismoreprominentintheRepublicthaninanyoftheotherDialoguesofPlato,istheuseofexampleandillustration(’taphorhtikaautoprhospherhontez’):\"Letusapplythetestofcommoninstances。\"\"You,\"saysAdeimantus,ironically,inthesixthbook,\"aresounaccustomedtospeakinimages。\"Andthisuseofexamplesorimages,thoughtrulySocraticinorigin,isenlargedbythegeniusofPlatointotheformofanallegoryorparable,whichembodiesintheconcretewhathasbeenalreadydescribed,orisabouttobedescribed,intheabstract。ThusthefigureofthecaveinBookVIIisarecapitulationofthedivisionsofknowledgeinBookVI。 ThecompositeanimalinBookIXisanallegoryofthepartsofthesoul。ThenoblecaptainandtheshipandthetruepilotinBookVIareafigureoftherelationofthepeopletothephilosophersintheStatewhichhasbeendescribed。Otherfigures,suchasthedoginthesecond,third,andfourthbooks,orthemarriageoftheportionlessmaideninthesixthbook,orthedronesandwaspsintheeighthandninthbooks,alsoformlinksofconnectioninlongpassages,orareusedtorecallpreviousdiscussions。 Platoismosttruetothecharacterofhismasterwhenhedescribeshimas\"notofthisworld。\"AndwiththisrepresentationofhimtheidealStateandtheotherparadoxesoftheRepublicarequiteinaccordance,thoughtheycannotbeshowntohavebeenspeculationsofSocrates。Tohim,astoothergreatteachersbothphilosophicalandreligious,whentheylookedupward,theworldseemedtobetheembodimentoferrorandevil。Thecommonsenseofmankindhasrevoltedagainstthisview,orhasonlypartiallyadmittedit。AndeveninSocrateshimselfthesternerjudgmentofthemultitudeattimespassesintoasortofironicalpityorlove。Meningeneralareincapableofphilosophy,andarethereforeatenmitywiththephilosopher;buttheirmisunderstandingofhimisunavoidable:fortheyhaveneverseenhimashetrulyisinhisownimage;theyareonlyacquaintedwithartificialsystemspossessingnonativeforceoftruth——wordswhichadmitofmanyapplications。Theirleadershavenothingtomeasurewith,andarethereforeignorantoftheirownstature。Buttheyaretobepitiedorlaughedat,nottobequarrelledwith;theymeanwellwiththeirnostrums,iftheycouldonlylearnthattheyarecuttingoffaHydra’shead。ThismoderationtowardsthosewhoareinerrorisoneofthemostcharacteristicfeaturesofSocratesintheRepublic。InallthedifferentrepresentationsofSocrates,whetherofXenophonorPlato,andthedifferencesoftheearlierorlaterDialogues,healwaysretainsthecharacteroftheunweariedanddisinterestedseekeraftertruth,withoutwhichhewouldhaveceasedtobeSocrates。 LeavingthecharacterswemaynowanalyzethecontentsoftheRepublic,andthenproceedtoconsider(1)ThegeneralaspectsofthisHellenicidealoftheState,(2)ThemodernlightsinwhichthethoughtsofPlatomayberead。 BOOKI SOCRATES—GLAUCON IWENTdownyesterdaytothePiraeuswithGlauconthesonofAriston,thatImightofferupmyprayerstothegoddess;andalsobecauseIwantedtoseeinwhatmannertheywouldcelebratethefestival,whichwasanewthing。Iwasdelightedwiththeprocessionoftheinhabitants;butthatoftheThracianswasequally,ifnotmore,beautiful。Whenwehadfinishedourprayersandviewedthespectacle,weturnedinthedirectionofthecity;andatthatinstantPolemarchusthesonofCephaluschancedtocatchsightofusfromadistanceaswewerestartingonourwayhome,andtoldhisservanttorunandbiduswaitforhim。Theservanttookholdofmebythecloakbehind,andsaid:Polemarchusdesiresyoutowait。 Iturnedround,andaskedhimwherehismasterwas。 Thereheis,saidtheyouth,comingafteryou,ifyouwillonlywait。 Certainlywewill,saidGlaucon;andinafewminutesPolemarchusappeared,andwithhimAdeimantus,Glaucon’sbrother,NiceratusthesonofNicias,andseveralotherswhohadbeenattheprocession。 SOCRATES—POLEMARCHUS—GLAUCON—ADEIMANTUS Polemarchussaidtome:Iperceive,Socrates,thatyouandourcompanionarealreadyonyourwaytothecity。 Youarenotfarwrong,Isaid。 Butdoyousee,herejoined,howmanyweare? Ofcourse。 Andareyoustrongerthanallthese?forifnot,youwillhavetoremainwhereyouare。 Maytherenotbethealternative,Isaid,thatwemaypersuadeyoutoletusgo? Butcanyoupersuadeus,ifwerefusetolistentoyou?hesaid。 Certainlynot,repliedGlaucon。 Thenwearenotgoingtolisten;ofthatyoumaybeassured。 Adeimantusadded:Hasnoonetoldyouofthetorch—raceonhorsebackinhonourofthegoddesswhichwilltakeplaceintheevening? Withhorses!Ireplied:Thatisanovelty。Willhorsemencarrytorchesandpassthemonetoanotherduringtherace? Yes,saidPolemarchus,andnotonlyso,butafestivalwillhecelebratedatnight,whichyoucertainlyoughttosee。Letusrisesoonaftersupperandseethisfestival;therewillbeagatheringofyoungmen,andwewillhaveagoodtalk。Staythen,anddonotbeperverse。 Glauconsaid:Isuppose,sinceyouinsist,thatwemust。 Verygood,Ireplied。 GLAUCON—CEPHALUS—SOCRATES AccordinglywewentwithPolemarchustohishouse;andtherewefoundhisbrothersLysiasandEuthydemus,andwiththemThrasymachustheChalcedonian,CharmantidesthePaeanian,andCleitophonthesonofAristonymus。TheretoowasCephalusthefatherofPolemarchus,whomIhadnotseenforalongtime,andIthoughthimverymuchaged。Hewasseatedonacushionedchair,andhadagarlandonhishead,forhehadbeensacrificinginthecourt;andthereweresomeotherchairsintheroomarrangedinasemicircle,uponwhichwesatdownbyhim。Hesalutedmeeagerly,andthenhesaid:—— Youdon’tcometoseeme,Socrates,asoftenasyouought:IfIwerestillabletogoandseeyouIwouldnotaskyoutocometome。ButatmyageIcanhardlygettothecity,andthereforeyoushouldcomeoftenertothePiraeus。Forletmetellyou,thatthemorethepleasuresofthebodyfadeaway,thegreatertomeisthepleasureandcharmofconversation。Donotthendenymyrequest,butmakeourhouseyourresortandkeepcompanywiththeseyoungmen;weareoldfriends,andyouwillbequiteathomewithus。 Ireplied:ThereisnothingwhichformypartIlikebetter,Cephalus,thanconversingwithagedmen;forIregardthemastravellerswhohavegoneajourneywhichItoomayhavetogo,andofwhomIoughttoenquire,whetherthewayissmoothandeasy,orruggedanddifficult。AndthisisaquestionwhichIshouldliketoaskofyouwhohavearrivedatthattimewhichthepoetscallthe’thresholdofoldage’——Islifehardertowardstheend,orwhatreportdoyougiveofit? Iwilltellyou,Socrates,hesaid,whatmyownfeelingis。Menofmyageflocktogether;wearebirdsofafeather,astheoldproverbsays;andatourmeetingsthetaleofmyacquaintancecommonlyis——Icannoteat,Icannotdrink;thepleasuresofyouthandlovearefledaway:therewasagoodtimeonce,butnowthatisgone,andlifeisnolongerlife。Somecomplainoftheslightswhichareputuponthembyrelations,andtheywilltellyousadlyofhowmanyevilstheiroldageisthecause。Buttome,Socrates,thesecomplainersseemtoblamethatwhichisnotreallyinfault。Forifoldagewerethecause,Itoobeingold,andeveryotheroldman,wouldhavefeltastheydo。Butthisisnotmyownexperience,northatofotherswhomIhaveknown。HowwellIremembertheagedpoetSophocles,wheninanswertothequestion,Howdoeslovesuitwithage,Sophocles,——areyoustillthemanyouwere?Peace,hereplied;mostgladlyhaveIescapedthethingofwhichyouspeak;IfeelasifIhadescapedfromamadandfuriousmaster。Hiswordshaveoftenoccurredtomymindsince,andtheyseemasgoodtomenowasatthetimewhenheutteredthem。Forcertainlyoldagehasagreatsenseofcalmandfreedom;whenthepassionsrelaxtheirhold,then,asSophoclessays,wearefreedfromthegraspnotofonemadmasteronly,butofmany。Thetruthis,Socrates,thattheseregrets,andalsothecomplaintsaboutrelations,aretobeattributedtothesamecause,whichisnotoldage,butmen’scharactersandtempers; forhewhoisofacalmandhappynaturewillhardlyfeelthepressureofage,buttohimwhoisofanoppositedispositionyouthandageareequallyaburden。 Ilistenedinadmiration,andwantingtodrawhimout,thathemightgoon——Yes,Cephalus,Isaid:butIrathersuspectthatpeopleingeneralarenotconvincedbyyouwhenyouspeakthus;theythinkthatoldagesitslightlyuponyou,notbecauseofyourhappydisposition,butbecauseyouarerich,andwealthiswellknowntobeagreatcomforter。 Youareright,hereplied;theyarenotconvinced:andthereissomethinginwhattheysay;not,however,somuchastheyimagine。I mightanswerthemasThemistoclesansweredtheSeriphianwhowasabusinghimandsayingthathewasfamous,notforhisownmeritsbutbecausehewasanAthenian:’IfyouhadbeenanativeofmycountryorIofyours,neitherofuswouldhavebeenfamous。’Andtothosewhoarenotrichandareimpatientofoldage,thesamereplymaybemade;fortothegoodpoormanoldagecannotbealightburden,norcanabadrichmaneverhavepeacewithhimself。 MayIask,Cephalus,whetheryourfortunewasforthemostpartinheritedoracquiredbyyou? Acquired!Socrates;doyouwanttoknowhowmuchIacquired?IntheartofmakingmoneyIhavebeenmidwaybetweenmyfatherandgrandfather:formygrandfather,whosenameIbear,doubledandtrebledthevalueofhispatrimony,thatwhichheinheritedbeingmuchwhatIpossessnow;butmyfatherLysaniasreducedthepropertybelowwhatitisatpresent:andIshallbesatisfiedifIleavetothesemysonsnotlessbutalittlemorethanIreceived。 ThatwaswhyIaskedyouthequestion,Ireplied,becauseIseethatyouareindifferentaboutmoney,whichisacharacteristicratherofthosewhohaveinheritedtheirfortunesthanofthosewhohaveacquiredthem;themakersoffortuneshaveasecondloveofmoneyasacreationoftheirown,resemblingtheaffectionofauthorsfortheirownpoems,orofparentsfortheirchildren,besidesthatnaturalloveofitforthesakeofuseandprofitwhichiscommontothemandallmen。Andhencetheyareverybadcompany,fortheycantalkaboutnothingbutthepraisesofwealth。Thatistrue,hesaid。 Yes,thatisverytrue,butmayIaskanotherquestion?Whatdoyouconsidertobethegreatestblessingwhichyouhavereapedfromyourwealth? One,hesaid,ofwhichIcouldnotexpecteasilytoconvinceothers。 Forletmetellyou,Socrates,thatwhenamanthinkshimselftobeneardeath,fearsandcaresenterintohismindwhichheneverhadbefore;thetalesofaworldbelowandthepunishmentwhichisexactedthereofdeedsdoneherewereoncealaughingmattertohim,butnowheistormentedwiththethoughtthattheymaybetrue:eitherfromtheweaknessofage,orbecauseheisnowdrawingnearertothatotherplace,hehasaclearerviewofthesethings;suspicionsandalarmscrowdthicklyuponhim,andhebeginstoreflectandconsiderwhatwrongshehasdonetoothers。Andwhenhefindsthatthesumofhistransgressionsisgreathewillmanyatimelikeachildstartupinhissleepforfear,andheisfilledwithdarkforebodings。Buttohimwhoisconsciousofnosin,sweethope,asPindarcharminglysays,isthekindnurseofhisage: Hope,hesays,cherishesthesoulofhimwholivesinjusticeandholinessandisthenurseofhisageandthecompanionofhisjourney; ——hopewhichismightiesttoswaytherestlesssoulofman。 Howadmirablearehiswords!Andthegreatblessingofriches,I donotsaytoeveryman,buttoagoodman,is,thathehashadnooccasiontodeceiveortodefraudothers,eitherintentionallyorunintentionally;andwhenhedepartstotheworldbelowheisnotinanyapprehensionaboutofferingsduetothegodsordebtswhichheowestomen。Nowtothispeaceofmindthepossessionofwealthgreatlycontributes;andthereforeIsay,that,settingonethingagainstanother,ofthemanyadvantageswhichwealthhastogive,toamanofsensethisisinmyopinionthegreatest。 Wellsaid,Cephalus,Ireplied;butasconcerningjustice,whatisit?——tospeakthetruthandtopayyourdebts——nomorethanthis? Andeventothisaretherenotexceptions?Supposethatafriendwheninhisrightmindhasdepositedarmswithmeandheasksforthemwhenheisnotinhisrightmind,oughtItogivethembacktohim?NoonewouldsaythatIoughtorthatIshouldberightindoingso,anymorethantheywouldsaythatIoughtalwaystospeakthetruthtoonewhoisinhiscondition。 Youarequiteright,hereplied。 Butthen,Isaid,speakingthetruthandpayingyourdebtsisnotacorrectdefinitionofjustice。 CEPHALUS—SOCRATES—POLEMARCHUS Quitecorrect,Socrates,ifSimonidesistobebelieved,saidPolemarchusinterposing。 Ifear,saidCephalus,thatImustgonow,forIhavetolookafterthesacrifices,andIhandovertheargumenttoPolemarchusandthecompany。 IsnotPolemarchusyourheir?Isaid。 Tobesure,heanswered,andwentawaylaughingtothesacrifices。 SOCRATES—POLEMARCHUS Tellmethen,Othouheiroftheargument,whatdidSimonidessay,andaccordingtoyoutrulysay,aboutjustice? Hesaidthattherepaymentofadebtisjust,andinsayingsoheappearstometoberight。 Ishouldbesorrytodoubtthewordofsuchawiseandinspiredman,buthismeaning,thoughprobablycleartoyou,isthereverseofcleartome。Forhecertainlydoesnotmean,aswewerenowsayingthatI oughttoreturnareturnadepositofarmsorofanythingelsetoonewhoasksforitwhenheisnotinhisrightsenses;andyetadepositcannotbedeniedtobeadebt。 True。 ThenwhenthepersonwhoasksmeisnotinhisrightmindIambynomeanstomakethereturn? Certainlynot。 WhenSimonidessaidthattherepaymentofadebtwasjustice,hedidnotmeantoincludethatcase? Certainlynot;forhethinksthatafriendoughtalwaystodogoodtoafriendandneverevil。 Youmeanthatthereturnofadepositofgoldwhichistotheinjuryofthereceiver,ifthetwopartiesarefriends,isnottherepaymentofadebt,——thatiswhatyouwouldimaginehimtosay? Yes。 Andareenemiesalsotoreceivewhatweowetothem? Tobesure,hesaid,theyaretoreceivewhatweowethem,andanenemy,asItakeit,owestoanenemythatwhichisdueorpropertohim——thatistosay,evil。 Simonides,then,afterthemannerofpoets,wouldseemtohavespokendarklyofthenatureofjustice;forhereallymeanttosaythatjusticeisthegivingtoeachmanwhatispropertohim,andthishetermedadebt。 Thatmusthavebeenhismeaning,hesaid。 Byheaven!Ireplied;andifweaskedhimwhatdueorproperthingisgivenbymedicine,andtowhom,whatanswerdoyouthinkthathewouldmaketous? Hewouldsurelyreplythatmedicinegivesdrugsandmeatanddrinktohumanbodies。 Andwhatdueorproperthingisgivenbycookery,andtowhat? Seasoningtofood。 Andwhatisthatwhichjusticegives,andtowhom? If,Socrates,wearetobeguidedatallbytheanalogyoftheprecedinginstances,thenjusticeistheartwhichgivesgoodtofriendsandeviltoenemies。 Thatishismeaningthen? Ithinkso。 Andwhoisbestabletodogoodtohisfriendsandeviltohisenemiesintimeofsickness? Thephysician。 Orwhentheyareonavoyage,amidtheperilsofthesea? Thepilot。 Andinwhatsortofactionsorwithaviewtowhatresultisthejustmanmostabletodoharmtohisenemyandgoodtohisfriends? Ingoingtowaragainsttheoneandinmakingallianceswiththeother。 Butwhenamaniswell,mydearPolemarchus,thereisnoneedofaphysician? No。 Andhewhoisnotonavoyagehasnoneedofapilot? No。 Thenintimeofpeacejusticewillbeofnouse? Iamveryfarfromthinkingso。 Youthinkthatjusticemaybeofuseinpeaceaswellasinwar? Yes。 Likehusbandryfortheacquisitionofcorn? Yes。 Orlikeshoemakingfortheacquisitionofshoes,——thatiswhatyoumean? Yes。 Andwhatsimilaruseorpowerofacquisitionhasjusticeintimeofpeace? Incontracts,Socrates,justiceisofuse。 Andbycontractsyoumeanpartnerships? Exactly。 Butisthejustmanortheskilfulplayeramoreusefulandbetterpartneratagameofdraughts? Theskilfulplayer。 Andinthelayingofbricksandstonesisthejustmanamoreusefulorbetterpartnerthanthebuilder? Quitethereverse。