第3章

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。Itistomeasufficientreasonnottobelievetheexistenceofanything,ifIseenoreasonforbelievingit。But,nottoinsistonreasonsforbelieving,youwillnotsomuchasletmeknowyouwouldhavemebelieve;sinceyousayyouhavenomannerofnotionofit。Afterall,letmeentreatyoutoconsiderwhetheritbelikeaphilosopher,orevenlikeamanofcommonsense,topretendtobelieveyouknownotwhat\'andyouknownotwhy。 。Hold,Philonous。WhenItellyouMatterisan,Idonotmeanaltogethernothing。ItistrueIknownottheparticularkindofinstrument;but,however,Ihavesomenotionof,whichIapplytoit。 。Butwhatifitshouldprovethatthereissomething,eveninthemostgeneralnotionof,astakeninadistinctsensefrom,whichmakestheuseofitinconsistentwiththeDivineattributes? 。MakethatappearandIshallgiveupthepoint。 。Whatmeanyoubythegeneralnatureornotionof。Thatwhichiscommontoallparticularinstrumentscomposeththegeneralnotion。 。Isitnotcommontoallinstruments,thattheyareappliedtothedoingthosethingsonlywhichcannotbeperformedbythemereactofourwills?Thus,forinstance,Ineveruseaninstrumenttomovemyfinger,becauseitisdonebyavolition。 ButIshoulduseoneifIweretoremovepartofarock,ortearupatreebytheroots。Areyouofthesamemind?{219}Or,canyoushewanyexamplewhereaninstrumentismadeuseofinproducinganeffectdependingonthewilloftheagent? 。IownIcannot。 。HowthereforecanyousupposethatanAll-perfectSpirit,onwhoseWillallthingshaveanabsoluteandimmediatedependence,shouldneedaninstrumentinhisoperations,or,notneedingit,makeuseofit?ThusitseemstomethatyouareobligedtoowntheuseofalifelessinactiveinstrumenttobeincompatiblewiththeinfiniteperfectionofGod;thatis,byyourownconfession,togiveupthepoint。 。ItdothnotreadilyoccurwhatIcanansweryou。 。But,methinksyoushouldbereadytoownthetruth,whenithasbeenfairlyprovedtoyou。Weindeed,whoarebeingsoffinitepowers,areforcedtomakeuseofinstruments。Andtheuseofaninstrumentsheweththeagenttobelimitedbyrulesofanother\'sprescription,andthathecannotobtainhisendbutinsuchaway,andbysuchconditions。Whenceitseemsaclearconsequence,thatthesupremeunlimitedagentusethnotoolorinstrumentatall。ThewillofanOmnipotentSpiritisnosoonerexertedthanexecuted,withouttheapplicationofmeans;which,iftheyareemployedbyinferioragents,itisnotuponaccountofanyrealefficacythatisinthem,ornecessaryaptitudetoproduceanyeffect,butmerelyincompliancewiththelawsofnature,orthoseconditionsprescribedtothembytheFirstCause,whoisHimselfabovealllimitationorprescriptionwhatsoever。 。IwillnolongermaintainthatMatterisaninstrument。However,Iwouldnotbeunderstoodtogiveupitsexistenceneither;since,notwithstandingwhathathbeensaid,itmaystillbean。HowmanyshapesisyourMattertotake?Or,howoftenmustitbeprovednottoexist,beforeyouarecontenttopartwithit?But,tosaynomoreofthis(thoughbyallthelawsofdisputationImayjustlyblameyouforsofrequentlychangingthesignificationoftheprincipalterm)——Iwouldfainknowwhatyoumeanbyaffirmingthatmatterisanoccasion,havingalreadydeniedittobeacause。And,whenyouhaveshewninwhatsenseyouunderstand,pray,inthenextplace,bepleasedtoshewmewhatreasoninducethyoutobelievethereissuchanoccasionofourideas? 。Astothefirstpoint:byImeananinactive{220}unthinkingbeing,atthepresencewhereofGodexcitesideasinourminds。 。Andwhatmaybethenatureofthatinactiveunthinkingbeing? 。Iknownothingofitsnature。 。Proceedthentothesecondpoint,andassignsomereasonwhyweshouldallowanexistencetothisinactive,unthinking,unknownthing。 。Whenweseeideasproducedinourminds,afteranorderlyandconstantmanner,itisnaturaltothinktheyhavesomefixedandregularoccasions,atthepresenceofwhichtheyareexcited。 。YouacknowledgethenGodalonetobethecauseofourideas,andthatHecausesthematthepresenceofthoseoccasions。 。Thatismyopinion。 。ThosethingswhichyousayarepresenttoGod,withoutdoubtHeperceives。 。Certainly;otherwisetheycouldnotbetoHimanoccasionofacting。 。Nottoinsistnowonyourmakingsenseofthishypothesis,oransweringallthepuzzlingquestionsanddifficultiesitisliableto:Ionlyaskwhethertheorderandregularityobservableintheseriesofourideas,orthecourseofnature,benotsufficientlyaccountedforbythewisdomandpowerofGod;andwhetheritdothnotderogatefromthoseattributes,tosupposeHeisinfluenced,directed,orputinmind,whenandwhatHeistoact,byanunthinkingsubstance? And,lastly,whether,incaseIgrantedallyoucontendfor,itwouldmakeanythingtoyourpurpose;itnotbeingeasytoconceivehowtheexternalorabsoluteexistenceofanunthinkingsubstance,distinctfromitsbeingperceived,canbeinferredfrommyallowingthattherearecertainthingsperceivedbythemindofGod,whicharetoHimtheoccasionofproducingideasinus? 。Iamperfectlyatalosswhattothink,thisnotionofseemingnowaltogetherasgroundlessastherest。 。Doyounotatlengthperceivethatinallthesedifferentacceptationsof,youhavebeenonlysupposingyouknownotwhat,fornomannerofreason,andtonokindofuse? 。Ifreelyownmyselflessfondofmynotionssincetheyhavebeensoaccuratelyexamined。Butstill,methinks,I havesomeconfusedperceptionthatthereissuchathingas。{221} 。EitheryouperceivethebeingofMatterimmediatelyormediately。Ifimmediately,prayinformmebywhichofthesensesyouperceiveit。Ifmediately,letmeknowbywhatreasoningitisinferredfromthosethingswhichyouperceiveimmediately。Somuchfortheperception。ThenfortheMatteritself,Iaskwhetheritisobject,,cause,instrument,oroccasion?Youhavealreadypleadedforeachofthese,shiftingyournotions,andmakingMattertoappearsometimesinoneshape,theninanother。Andwhatyouhaveofferedhathbeendisapprovedandrejectedbyyourself。IfyouhaveanythingnewtoadvanceIwouldgladlybearit。 。IthinkIhavealreadyofferedallIhadtosayonthoseheads。Iamatalosswhatmoretourge。 。Andyetyouareloathtopartwithyouroldprejudice。But,tomakeyouquititmoreeasily,Idesirethat,besidewhathasbeenhithertosuggested,youwillfartherconsiderwhether,upon。suppositionthatMatterexists,youcanpossiblyconceivehowyoushouldbeaffectedbyit。Or,supposingitdidnotexist,whetheritbenotevidentyoumightforallthatbeaffectedwiththesameideasyounoware,andconsequentlyhavetheverysamereasonstobelieveitsexistencethatyounowcanhave。 。Iacknowledgeitispossiblewemightperceiveallthingsjustaswedonow,thoughtherewasnoMatterintheworld;neithercanIconceive,iftherebeMatter,howitshouldproduce\'anyideainourminds。And,Idofarthergrantyouhaveentirelysatisfiedmethatitisimpossiblethereshouldbesuchathingasmatterinanyoftheforegoingacceptations。ButstillIcannothelpsupposingthatthereisinsomesenseorother。donotindeedpretendtodetermine。 。Idonotexpectyoushoulddefineexactlythenatureofthatunknownbeing。OnlybepleasedtotellmewhetheritisaSubstance;andifso,whetheryoucansupposeaSubstancewithoutaccidents;or,incaseyousupposeittohaveaccidentsorqualities,Idesireyouwillletmeknowwhatthosequalitiesare,atleastwhatismeantbyMatter\'ssupportingthem? 。Wehavealreadyarguedonthosepoints。Ihavenomoretosaytothem。But,topreventanyfartherquestions,letmetellyouIatpresentunderstandbyneithersubstancenoraccident,thinkingnorextendedbeing,neithercause,instrument,noroccasion,butSomethingentirelyunknown,distinctfromallthese。{222} 。ItseemsthenyouincludeinyourpresentnotionofMatternothingbutthegeneralabstractideaof。Nothingelse;saveonlythatIsuper-addtothisgeneralideathenegationofallthoseparticularthings,qualities,orideas,thatIperceive,imagine,orinanywiseapprehend。 。PraywheredoyousupposethisunknownMattertoexist? 。OhPhilonous!nowyouthinkyouhaveentangledme; for,ifIsayitexistsinplace,thenyouwillinferthatitexistsinthemind,sinceitisagreedthatplaceorextensionexistsonlyinthemind。ButIamnotashamedtoownmyignorance。Iknownotwhereitexists;onlyIamsureitexistsnotinplace。Thereisanegativeanswerforyou。AndyoumustexpectnoothertoallthequestionsyouputforthefutureaboutMatter。 。Sinceyouwillnottellmewhereitexists,bepleasedtoinformmeafterwhatmanneryousupposeittoexist,orwhatyoumeanbyits。Itneitherthinksnoracts,neitherperceivesnorisperceived。 。Butwhatistherepositiveinyourabstractednotionofitsexistence? 。Uponaniceobservation,IdonotfindIhaveanypositivenotionormeaningatall。Itellyouagain,Iamnotashamedtoownmyignorance。Iknownotwhatismeantbyits,orhowitexists。 。Continue,goodHylas,toactthesameingenuouspart,andtellmesincerelywhetheryoucanframeadistinctideaofEntityingeneral,prescindedfromandexclusiveofallthinkingandcorporealbeings,allparticularthingswhatsoever。 。Hold,letmethinkalittle——Iprofess,Philonous,IdonotfindthatIcan。Atfirstglance,methoughtIhadsomediluteandairynotionofPureEntityinabstract;but,uponcloserattention,ithathquitevanishedoutofsight。ThemoreI thinkonit,themoreamIconfirmedinmyprudentresolutionofgivingnonebutnegativeanswers,andnotpretendingtotheleastdegreeofanypositiveknowledgeorconceptionofMatter,its,its,its,oranythingbelongingtoit。 。When,therefore,youspeakoftheexistenceofMatter,youhavenotanynotioninyourmind? 。Noneatall。 。Praytellmeifthecasestandsnotthus——Atfirst,fromabeliefofmaterialsubstance,youwouldhaveitthatthe{223}immediateobjectsexistedwithoutthemind;thenthattheyarearchetypes;thencauses;nextinstruments;thenoccasions:lastly,whichbeinginterpretedproves。SoMattercomestonothing。Whatthinkyou,Hylas,isnotthisafairsummaryofyourwholeproceeding? 。Bethatasitwill,yetIstillinsistuponit,thatournotbeingabletoconceiveathingisnoargumentagainstitsexistence。 。Thatfromacause,effect,operation,sign,orothercircumstance,theremayreasonablybeinferredtheexistenceofathingnotimmediatelyperceived;andthatitwereabsurdforanymantoargueagainsttheexistenceofthatthing,fromhishavingnodirectandpositivenotionofit,Ifreelyown。But,wherethereisnothingofallthis;whereneitherreasonnorrevelationinducesustobelievetheexistenceofathing;wherewehavenotevenarelativenotionofit;whereanabstractionismadefromperceivingandbeingperceived,fromSpiritandidea:lastly,wherethereisnotsomuchasthemostinadequateorfaintideapretendedto——Iwillnotindeedthenceconcludeagainsttherealityofanynotion,orexistenceofanything;butmyinferenceshallbe,thatyoumeannothingatall;thatyouemploywordstonomannerofpurpose,withoutanydesignorsignificationwhatsoever。AndIleaveittoyoutoconsiderhowmerejargonshouldbetreated。 。Todealfranklywithyou,Philonous,yourargumentsseeminthemselvesunanswerable;buttheyhavenotsogreataneffectonmeastoproducethatentireconviction,thatheartyacquiescence,whichattendsdemonstration。IfindmyselfrelapsingintoanobscuresurmiseofIknownotwhat,。But,areyounotsensible,Hylas,thattwothingsmustconcurtotakeawayallscruple,andworkaplenaryassentinthemind,?Letavisibleobjectbesetinneversoclearalight,yet,ifthereisanyimperfectioninthesight,oriftheeyeisnotdirectedtowardsit,itwillnotbedistinctlyseen。 Andthoughademonstrationbeneversowellgroundedandfairlyproposed,yet,ifthereiswithalastainofprejudice,orawrongbiasontheunderstanding,canitbeexpectedonasuddentoperceiveclearly,andadherefirmlytothetruth?No;thereisneedoftimeandpains:theattentionmustbeawakenedanddetainedbyafrequentrepetitionofthesamethingplacedoftinthesame,oftindifferentlights。Ihavesaiditalready,andfindImuststillrepeatandinculcate,thatitisanunaccountablelicence{224}youtake,inpretendingtomaintainyouknownotwhat,foryouknownotwhatreason,toyouknownotwhatpurpose。Canthisbeparalleledinanyartorscience,anysectorprofessionofmen?Oristhereanythingsobarefacedlygroundlessandunreasonabletobemetwitheveninthelowestofcommonconversation?But,perhapsyouwillstillsay,Mattermayexist;thoughatthesametimeyouneitherknow by,orbyits。Thisindeedissurprising,andthemoresobecauseitisaltogethervoluntary[andofyourownhead],[6]younotbeingledtoitbyanyonereason;forI challengeyoutoshewmethatthinginnaturewhichneedsMattertoexplainoraccountforit。 ofthingscannotbemaintainedwithoutsupposingtheexistenceofMatter。Andisnotthis,thinkyou,agoodreasonwhyIshouldbeearnestinitsdefence? 。Therealityofthings!Whatthings?sensibleorintelligible? 。Sensiblethings。 。Mygloveforexample? 。That,oranyotherthingperceivedbythesenses。 。Buttofixonsomeparticularthing。Isitnotasufficientevidencetomeoftheexistenceofthis,thatIseeit,andfeelit,andwearit?Or,ifthiswillnotdo,howisitpossibleIshouldbeassuredoftherealityofthisthing,whichIactuallyseeinthisplace,bysupposingthatsomeunknownthing,whichIneverdidorcansee,existsafteranunknownmanner,inanunknownplace,orinnoplaceatall?Howcanthesupposedrealityofthatwhichisintangiblebeaproofthatanythingtangiblereallyexists?Or,ofthatwhichisinvisible,thatanyvisiblething,or,ingeneralofanythingwhichisimperceptible,thataperceptibleexists?DobutexplainthisandIshallthinknothingtoohardforyou。 。Uponthewhole,Iamcontenttoowntheexistenceofmatterishighlyimprobable;butthedirectandabsoluteimpossibilityofitdoesnotappeartome。 。ButgrantingMattertobepossible,yet,uponthataccountmerely,itcanhavenomoreclaimtoexistencethanagoldenmountain,oracentaur。 。Iacknowledgeit;butstillyoudonotdenyitispossible;andthatwhichispossible,foraughtyouknow,mayactuallyexist。 。Idenyittobepossible;andhave,ifImistakenot,{225}evidentlyproved,fromyourownconcessions,thatitisnot。Inthecommonsenseoftheword,isthereanymoreimpliedthananextended,solid,figured,moveablesubstance,existingwithoutthemind?Andhavenotyouacknowledged,overandover,thatyouhaveseenevidentreasonfordenyingthepossibilityofsuchasubstance? 。True,butthatisonlyonesenseoftheterm。Butisitnottheonlypropergenuinereceivedsense?And,ifMatter,insuchasense,beprovedimpossible,mayitnotbethoughtwithgoodgroundsabsolutelyimpossible?Elsehowcouldanythingbeprovedimpossible?Or,indeed,howcouldtherebeanyproofatallonewayorother,toamanwhotakesthelibertytounsettleandchangethecommonsignificationofwords? 。Ithoughtphilosophersmightbeallowedtospeakmoreaccuratelythanthevulgar,andwerenotalwaysconfinedtothecommonacceptationofaterm。 。Butthisnowmentionedisthecommonreceivedsenseamongphilosophersthemselves。But,nottoinsistonthat,haveyounotbeenallowedtotakeMatterinwhatsenseyoupleased? Andhaveyounotusedthisprivilegeintheutmostextent; sometimesentirelychanging,atothersleavingout,orputtingintothedefinitionofitwhatever,forthepresent,bestservedyourdesign,contrarytoalltheknownrulesofreasonandlogic? Andhathnotthisshifting,unfairmethodofyoursspunoutourdisputetoanunnecessarylength;Matterhavingbeenparticularlyexamined,andbyyourownconfessionrefutedineachofthosesenses?Andcananymoreberequiredtoprovetheabsoluteimpossibilityofathing,thantheprovingitimpossibleineveryparticularsensethateitheryouoranyoneelseunderstandsitin? 。ButIamnotsothoroughlysatisfiedthatyouhaveprovedtheimpossibilityofMatter,inthelastmostobscureabstractedandindefinitesense。 ……Whenisathingshewntobeimpossible? 。Whenarepugnancyisdemonstratedbetweentheideascomprehendedinitsdefinition。 。Butwheretherearenoideas,therenorepugnancycanbedemonstratedbetweenideas? 。Iagreewithyou。 。Now,inthatwhichyoucalltheobscureindefinitesenseoftheword,itisplain,byyourownconfession,there{226}wasincludednoideaatall,nosenseexceptanunknownsense;whichisthesamethingasnone。Youarenot,therefore,toexpectIshouldprovearepugnancybetweenideas,wheretherearenoideas;ortheimpossibilityofMattertakeninansense,thatis,nosenseatall。Mybusinesswasonlytoshewyoumeant;andthisyouwerebroughttoown。Sothat,inallyourvarioussenses,youhavebeenshewedeithertomeannothingatall,or,ifanything,anabsurdity。Andifthisbenotsufficienttoprovetheimpossibilityofathing,Idesireyouwillletmeknowwhatis。 。IacknowledgeyouhaveprovedthatMatterisimpossible;nordoIseewhatmorecanbesaidindefenceofit。 But,atthesametimethatIgiveupthis,Isuspectallmyothernotions。Forsurelynonecouldbemoreseeminglyevidentthanthisoncewas:andyetitnowseemsasfalseandabsurdaseveritdidtruebefore。ButIthinkwehavediscussedthepointsufficientlyforthepresent。TheremainingpartofthedayI wouldwillinglyspendinrunningoverinmythoughtstheseveralheadsofthismorning\'sconversation,andtomorrowshallbegladtomeetyouhereagainaboutthesametime。 willnotfailtoattendyou。{227} THETHIRDDIALOGUE Tellme,Hylas,[7]whatarethefruitsofyesterday\'smeditation?Hasitconfirmedyouinthesamemindyouwereinatparting?orhaveyousinceseencausetochangeyouropinion? 。Trulymyopinionisthatallouropinionsarealikevainanduncertain。Whatweapproveto-day,wecondemnto-morrow。 Wekeepastiraboutknowledge,andspendourlivesinthepursuitofit,when,alasIweknownothingallthewhile:nordoIthinkitpossibleforusevertoknowanythinginthislife。 Ourfacultiesaretoonarrowandtoofew。Naturecertainlyneverintendedusforspeculation。 。What!Sayyouwecanknownothing,Hylas? 。Thereisnotthatsinglethingintheworldwhereofwecanknowtherealnature,orwhatitisinitself。 。WillyoutellmeIdonotreallyknowwhatfireorwateris? 。Youmayindeedknowthatfireappearshot,andwaterfluid;butthisisnomorethanknowingwhatsensationsareproducedinyourownmind,upontheapplicationoffireandwatertoyourorgansofsense。Theirinternalconstitution,theirtrueandrealnature,youareutterlyinthedarkasto。DoInotknowthistobearealstonethatIstandon,andthatwhichIseebeforemyeyestobearealtree? ?No,itisimpossibleyouoranymanaliveshouldknowit。Allyouknowis,thatyouhavesuchacertainideaorappearanceinyourownmind。Butwhatisthistotherealtreeorstone?Itellyouthatcolour,figure,andhardness,whichyouperceive,arenottherealnaturesofthosethings,orintheleastlikethem。Thesamemaybesaidofallotherrealthings,orcorporealsubstances,whichcomposetheworld。Theyhavenoneofthemanythingofthemselves,likethosesensiblequalitiesbyusperceived。Weshouldnotthereforepretendtoaffirmorknowanythingofthem,astheyareintheirownnature。 。Butsurely,Hylas,Icandistinguishgold,forexample,{228}fromiron:andhowcouldthisbe,ifIknewnotwhateithertrulywas? 。Believeme,Philonous,youcanonlydistinguishbetweenyourownideas。Thatyellowness,thatweight,andothersensiblequalities,thinkyoutheyarereallyinthegold?Theyareonlyrelativetothesenses,andhavenoabsoluteexistenceinnature。Andinpretendingtodistinguishthespeciesofrealthings,bytheappearancesinyourmind,youmayperhapsactaswiselyashethatshouldconcludetwomenwereofadifferentspecies,becausetheirclotheswerenotofthesamecolour。 。Itseems,then,wearealtogetherputoffwiththeappearancesofthings,andthosefalseonestoo。TheverymeatI eat,andtheclothIwear,havenothinginthemlikewhatIseeandfeel。 。Evenso。 。Butisitnotstrangethewholeworldshouldbethusimposedon,andsofoolishastobelievetheirsenses?AndyetI knownothowitis,butmeneat,anddrink,andsleep,andperformalltheofficesoflife,ascomfortablyandconvenientlyasiftheyreallyknewthethingstheyareconversantabout。 。Theydoso:butyouknowordinarypracticedoesnotrequireanicetyofspeculativeknowledge。Hencethevulgarretaintheirmistakes,andforallthatmakeashifttobustlethroughtheaffairsoflife。Butphilosophersknowbetterthings。 。Youmean,theythatthey。Thatistheverytopandperfectionofhumanknowledge。 。Butareyouallthiswhileinearnest,Hylas;andareyouseriouslypersuadedthatyouknownothingrealintheworld?Supposeyouaregoingtowrite,wouldyounotcallforpen,ink,andpaper,likeanotherman;anddoyounotknowwhatitisyoucallfor? 。HowoftenmustItellyou,thatIknownottherealnatureofanyonethingintheuniverse?Imayindeeduponoccasionmakeuseofpen,ink,andpaper。Butwhatanyoneofthemisinitsowntruenature,IdeclarepositivelyIknownot。 Andthesameistruewithregardtoevery,othercorporealthing。 And,whatismore,wearenotonlyignorantofthetrueandrealnatureofthings,butevenoftheirexistence。Itcannotbedeniedthatweperceivesuchcertainappearancesorideas;butitcannotbeconcludedfromthencethatbodiesreallyexist。{229} Nay,nowIthinkonit,Imust,agreeablytomyformerconcessions,fartherdeclarethatitisimpossibleany corporealthingshouldexistinnature。 。Youamazeme。Waseveranythingmorewildandextravagantthanthenotionsyounowmaintain:andisitnotevidentyouareledintoalltheseextravagancesbythebeliefof?Thismakesyoudreamofthoseunknownnaturesineverything。Itisthisoccasionsyourdistinguishingbetweentherealityandsensibleappearancesofthings。Itistothisyouareindebtedforbeingignorantofwhateverybodyelseknowsperfectlywell。Noristhisall:youarenotonlyignorantofthetruenatureofeverything,butyouknownotwhetheranythingreallyexists,orwhetherthereareanytruenaturesatall;forasmuchasyouattributetoyourmaterialbeingsanabsoluteorexternalexistence,whereinyousupposetheirrealityconsists。And,asyouareforcedintheendtoacknowledgesuchanexistencemeanseitheradirectrepugnancy,ornothingatall,itfollowsthatyouareobligedtopulldownyourownhypothesisofmaterialSubstance,andpositivelytodenytherealexistenceofanypartoftheuniverse。Andsoyouareplungedintothedeepestandmostdeplorablescepticismthatevermanwas。Tellme,Hylas,isitnotasIsay? 。Iagreewithyou。wasnomorethananhypothesis;andafalseandgroundlessonetoo。Iwillnolongerspendmybreathindefenceofit。Butwhateverhypothesisyouadvance,orwhatsoeverschemeofthingsyouintroduceinitsstead,Idoubtnotitwillappeareverywhitasfalse:letmebutbeallowedtoquestionyouuponit。Thatis,suffermetoserveyouinyourownkind,andIwarrantitshallconductyouthroughasmanyperplexitiesandcontradictions,totheverysamestateofscepticismthatImyselfaminatpresent。 。Iassureyou,Hylas,Idonotpretendtoframeanyhypothesisatall。Iamofavulgarcast,simpleenoughtobelievemysenses,andleavethingsasIfindthem。Tobeplain,itismyopinionthattherealthingsarethoseverythingsI see,andfeel,andperceivebymysenses。TheseIknow;and,findingtheyanswerallthenecessitiesandpurposesoflife,havenoreasontobesolicitousaboutanyotherunknownbeings。A pieceofsensiblebread,forinstance,wouldstaymystomachbetterthantenthousandtimesasmuchofthatinsensible,unintelligible,realbreadyouspeakof。Itislikewisemyopinionthatcoloursandothersensiblequalitiesareonthe{230}objects。Icannotformylifehelpthinkingthatsnowiswhite,andfirehot。Youindeed,whobyandfiremeancertainexternal,unperceived,unperceivingsubstances,areintherighttodenywhitenessorheattobeaffectionsinherentin。ButI,whounderstandbythosewordsthethingsIseeandfeel,amobligedtothinklikeotherfolks。And,asIamnoscepticwithregardtothenatureofthings,soneitheramIastotheirexistence。Thatathingshouldbereallyperceivedbymysenses,andatthesametimenotreallyexist,istomeaplaincontradiction;sinceIcannotprescindorabstract,eveninthought,theexistenceofasensiblethingfromitsbeingperceived。Wood,stones,fire,water,flesh,iron,andthelikethings,whichInameanddiscourseof,arethingsthatIknow。 AndIshouldnothaveknownthembutthatIperceivedthembymysenses;andthingsperceivedbythesensesareimmediatelyperceived;andthingsimmediatelyperceivedareideas;andideascannotexistwithoutthemind;theirexistencethereforeconsistsinbeingperceived;when,therefore,theyareactuallyperceivedtherecanbenodoubtoftheirexistence。Awaythenwithallthatscepticism,allthoseridiculousphilosophicaldoubts。Whatajestisitforaphilosophertoquestiontheexistenceofsensiblethings,tillhehathitprovedtohimfromtheveracityofGod;ortopretendourknowledgeinthispointfallsshortofintuitionordemonstration!Imightaswelldoubtofmyownbeing,asofthebeingofthosethingsIactuallyseeandfeel。 。Notsofast,Philonous:yousayyoucannotconceivehowsensiblethingsshouldexistwithoutthemind。Doyounot? 。Ido。 。Supposingyouwereannihilated,cannotyouconceiveitpossiblethatthingsperceivablebysensemaystillexist? can;butthenitmustbeinanothermind。WhenI denysensiblethingsanexistenceoutofthemind,Idonotmeanmymindinparticular,butallminds。Now,itisplaintheyhaveanexistenceexteriortomymind;sinceIfindthembyexperiencetobeindependentofit。ThereisthereforesomeotherMindwhereintheyexist,duringtheintervalsbetweenthetimesof{231}myperceivingthem:aslikewisetheydidbeforemybirth,andwoulddoaftermysupposedannihilation。And,asthesameistruewithregardtoallotherfinitecreatedspirits,itnecessarilyfollowsthereisan,whichknowsandcomprehendsallthings,andexhibitsthemtoourviewinsuchamanner,andaccordingtosuchrules,asHeHimselfhathordained,andarebyustermedthe。Answerme,Philonous。Areallourideasperfectlyinertbeings?Orhavetheyanyagencyincludedinthem? 。Theyarealtogetherpassiveandinert。 。AndisnotGodanagent,abeingpurelyactive? 。Iacknowledgeit。 。Noideathereforecanbelikeunto,orrepresentthenatureofGod? 。Itcannot。 。SincethereforeyouhavenoofthemindofGod,howcanyouconceiveitpossiblethatthingsshouldexistinHismind?Or,ifyoucanconceivethemindofGod,withouthavinganideaofit,whymaynotIbeallowedtoconceivetheexistenceofMatter,notwithstandingIhavenoideaofit? 。Astoyourfirstquestion:IownIhaveproperlyno,eitherofGodoranyotherspirit;forthesebeingactive,cannotberepresentedbythingsperfectlyinert,asourideasare。Idoneverthelessknowthat1,whoamaspiritorthinkingsubstance,existascertainlyasIknowmyideasexist。 Farther,IknowwhatImeanbythetermsI;andI knowthisimmediatelyorintuitively,thoughIdonotperceiveitasIperceiveatriangle,acolour,orasound。TheMind,Spirit,orSoulisthatindivisibleunextendedthingwhichthinks,acts,andperceives。Isay,becauseunextended;and,becauseextended,figured,moveablethingsareideas;andthatwhichperceivesideas,whichthinksandwills,isplainlyitselfnoidea,norlikeanidea。Ideasarethingsinactive,andperceived。AndSpiritsasortofbeingsaltogetherdifferentfromthem。Idonotthereforesaymysoulisanidea,orlikeanidea。However,takingthewordinalargesense,mysoulmaybesaidtofurnishmewithanidea,thatis,animageorlikenessofGod——thoughindeedextremelyinadequate。For,allthenotionIhaveofGodisobtainedbyreflectingonmyownsoul,heighteningitspowers,andremovingits{232}imperfections。Ihave,therefore,thoughnotaninactiveidea,yetinsomesortofanactivethinkingimageoftheDeity。And,thoughIperceiveHimnotbysense,yetIhaveanotionofHim,orknowHimbyreflexionandreasoning。 MyownmindandmyownideasIhaveanimmediateknowledgeof; and,bythehelpofthese,domediatelyapprehendthepossibilityoftheexistenceofotherspiritsandideas。Farther,frommyownbeing,andfromthedependencyIfindinmyselfandmyideas,I do,byanactofreason,necessarilyinfertheexistenceofaGod,andofallcreatedthingsinthemindofGod。Somuchforyourfirstquestion。Forthesecond:Isupposebythistimeyoucananswerityourself。ForyouneitherperceiveMatterobjectively,asyoudoaninactivebeingoridea;norknowit,asyoudoyourself,byareflexact,neitherdoyoumediatelyapprehenditbysimilitudeoftheoneortheother;noryetcollectitbyreasoningfromthatwhichyouknowimmediately。Allwhichmakesthecaseofwidelydifferentfromthatofthe。 [。YousayyourownsoulsuppliesyouwithsomesortofanideaorimageofGod。But,atthesametime,youacknowledgeyouhave,properlyspeaking,noofyourownsoul。Youevenaffirmthatspiritsareasortofbeingsaltogetherdifferentfromideas。Consequentlythatnoideacanbelikeaspirit。Wehavethereforenoideaofanyspirit。YouadmitneverthelessthatthereisspiritualSubstance,althoughyouhavenoideaofit; whileyoudenytherecanbesuchathingasmaterialSubstance,becauseyouhavenonotionorideaofit。Isthisfairdealing? Toactconsistently,youmusteitheradmitMatterorrejectSpirit。Whatsayyoutothis? say,inthefirstplace,thatIdonotdenytheexistenceofmaterialsubstance,merelybecauseIhavenonotionofit\'butbecausethenotionofitisinconsistent;or,inotherwords,becauseitisrepugnantthatthereshouldbeanotionofit。Manythings,foraughtIknow,mayexist,whereofneitherI noranyothermanhathorcanhaveanyideaornotionwhatsoever。 Butthenthosethingsmustbepossible,thatis,nothing{233} inconsistentmustbeincludedintheirdefinition。Isay,secondly,that,althoughwebelievethingstoexistwhichwedonotperceive,yetwemaynotbelievethatanyparticularthingexists,withoutsomereasonforsuchbelief:butIhavenoreasonforbelievingtheexistenceofMatter。Ihavenoimmediateintuitionthereof:neithercanIimmediatelyfrommysensations,ideas,notions,actions,orpassions,inferanunthinking,unperceiving,inactiveSubstance——eitherbyprobablededuction,ornecessaryconsequence。WhereasthebeingofmySelf,thatis,myownsoul,mind,orthinkingprinciple,Ievidentlyknowbyreflexion。YouwillforgivemeifIrepeatthesamethingsinanswertothesameobjections。Intheverynotionordefinitionof,thereisincludedamanifestrepugnanceandinconsistency。ButthiscannotbesaidofthenotionofSpirit。Thatideasshouldexistinwhatdothnotperceive,orbeproducedbywhatdothnotact,isrepugnant。But,itisnorepugnancytosaythataperceivingthingshouldbethesubjectofideas,oranactivethingthecauseofthem。Itisgrantedwehaveneitheranimmediateevidencenorademonstrativeknowledgeoftheexistenceofotherfinitespirits;butitwillnotthencefollowthatsuchspiritsareonafootwithmaterialsubstances: iftosupposetheonebeinconsistent,anditbenotinconsistenttosupposetheother;iftheonecanbeinferredbynoargument,andthereisaprobabilityfortheother;ifweseesignsandeffectsindicatingdistinctfiniteagentslikeourselves,andseenosignorsymptomwhateverthatleadstoarationalbeliefofMatter。Isay,lastly,thatIhaveanotionofSpirit,thoughI havenot,strictlyspeaking,anideaofit。Idonotperceiveitasanidea,orbymeansofanidea,butknowitbyreflexion。 。Notwithstandingallyouhavesaid,tomeitseemsthat,accordingtoyourownwayofthinking,andinconsequenceofyourownprinciples,itshouldfollowthatareonlyasystemoffloatingideas,withoutanysubstancetosupportthem。 Wordsarenottobeusedwithoutameaning。And,asthereisnomoremeaninginthanin,theoneistobeexplodedaswellastheother。 。HowoftenmustIrepeat,thatIknoworamconsciousofmyownbeing;andthatamnotmyideas,butsomewhatelse,athinking,activeprinciplethatperceives,knows,wifls,andoperatesaboutideas。IknowthatI,one{234} andthesameself,perceivebothcoloursandsounds:thatacolourcannotperceiveasound,norasoundacolour:thatIamthereforeoneindividualprinciple,distinctfromcolourandsound;and,forthesamereason,fromaftothersensiblethingsandinertideas。But,IamnotinlikemannerconsciouseitheroftheexistenceoressenceofMatter。Onthecontrary,Iknowthatnothinginconsistentcanexist,andthattheexistenceofMatterimpliesaninconsistency。Farther,IknowwhatImeanwhenI affirmthatthereisaspiritualsubstanceorsupportofideas,thatis,thataspiritknowsandperceivesideas。But,Idonotknowwhatismeantwhenitissaidthatanunperceivingsubstancehathinherentinitandsupportseitherideasorthearchetypesofideas。ThereisthereforeuponthewholenoparityofcasebetweenSpiritandMatter。][8] 。Iownmyselfsatisfiedinthispoint。But,doyouinearnestthinktherealexistenceofsensiblethingsconsistsintheirbeingactuallyperceived?Ifso;howcomesitthatallmankinddistinguishbetweenthem?Askthefirstmanyoumeet,andheshalltellyou,isonething,and isanother。 amcontent,Hylas,toappealtothecommonsenseoftheworldforthetruthofmynotion。Askthegardenerwhyhethinksyondercherry-treeexistsinthegarden,andheshalltellyou,becauseheseesandfeelsit;inaword,becauseheperceivesitbyhissenses。Askhimwhyhethinksanorange-treenottobethere,andheshalltellyou,becausehedoesnotperceiveit。Whatheperceivesbysense,thathetermsareal,being,andsaithit;but,thatwhichisnotperceivable,thesame,hesaith,hathnobeing。 。Yes,Philonous,Igranttheexistenceofasensiblethingconsistsinbeingperceivable,butnotinbeingactuallyperceived。 。Andwhatisperceivablebutanidea?Andcananideaexistwithoutbeingactuallyperceived?Thesearepointslongsinceagreedbetweenus。 。But,beyouropinionneversotrue,yetsurelyyouwillnotdenyitisshocking,andcontrarytothecommonsenseofmen。{235}Askthefellowwhetheryondertreehathanexistenceoutofhismind:whatanswerthinkyouhewouldmake? 。ThesamethatIshouldmyself,towit,thatitdothexistoutofhismind。ButthentoaChristianitcannotsurelybeshockingtosay,therealtree,existingwithouthismind,istrulyknownandcomprehendedby(thatis)theinfinitemindofGod。Probablyhemaynotatfirstglancebeawareofthedirectandimmediateproofthereisofthis; inasmuchastheverybeingofatree,oranyothersensiblething,impliesamindwhereinitis。Butthepointitselfhecannotdeny。ThequestionbetweentheMaterialistsandmeisnot,whetherthingshaveaexistenceoutofthemindofthisorthatperson,butwhethertheyhaveanexistence,distinctfrombeingperceivedbyGod,andexteriortoallminds。 Thisindeedsomeheathensandphilosophershaveaffirmed,butwhoeverentertainsnotionsoftheDeitysuitabletotheHolyScriptureswillbeofanotheropinion。 。But,accordingtoyournotions,whatdifferenceistherebetweenrealthings,andchimerasformedbytheimagination,orthevisionsofadream——sincetheyareallequallyinthemind? 。Theideasformedbytheimaginationarefaintandindistinct;theyhave,besides,anentiredependenceonthewill。 Buttheideasperceivedbysense,thatis,realthings,aremorevividandclear;and,beingimprintedonthemindbyaspiritdistinctfromus,havenotthelikedependenceonourwill。Thereisthereforenodangerofconfoundingthesewiththeforegoing: andthereisaslittleofconfoundingthemwiththevisionsofadream,whicharedim,irregular,andconfused。And,thoughtheyshouldhappentobeneversolivelyandnatural,yet,bytheirnotbeingconnected,andofapiecewiththeprecedingandsubsequenttransactionsofourlives,theymighteasilybedistinguishedfromrealities。Inshort,bywhatevermethodyoudistinguishonyourscheme,thesame,itisevident,willholdalsouponmine。For,itmustbe,Ipresume,bysomeperceiveddifference;andIamnotfordeprivingyouofanyonethingthatyouperceive。 。Butstill,Philonous,youhold,thereisnothingintheworldbutspiritsandideas。Andthis,youmustneedsacknowledge,soundsveryoddly。 。Iowntheword,notbeingcommonlyusedfor,soundssomethingoutoftheway。Myreasonforusingitwas,becauseanecessaryrelationtothemindisunderstoodto{236}beimpliedbythatterm;anditisnowcommonlyusedbyphilosopherstodenotetheimmediateobjectsoftheunderstanding。But,howeveroddlythepropositionmaysoundinwords,yetitincludesnothingsoverystrangeorshockinginitssense;whichineffectamountstonomorethanthis,towit,thatthereareonlythingsperceiving,andthingsperceived;orthateveryunthinkingbeingisnecessarily,andfrom-theverynatureofitsexistence,perceivedbysomemind;ifnotbyafinitecreatedmind,yetcertainlybytheinfinitemindofGod,inwhom\"wefive,andmove,andhaveourbeing。\"Isthisasstrangeastosay,thesensiblequalitiesarenotontheobjects:orthatwecannotbesureoftheexistenceofthings,orknowanythingoftheirrealnatures——thoughwebothseeandfeelthem,andperceivethembyalloursenses? 。And,inconsequenceofthis,mustwenotthinktherearenosuchthingsasphysicalorcorporealcauses;butthataSpiritistheimmediatecauseofallthephenomenainnature?Cantherebeanythingmoreextravagantthanthis? 。Yes,itisinfinitelymoreextravaganttosay——athingwhichisinertoperatesonthemind,andwhichisunperceivingisthecauseofourperceptions,[withoutanyregardeithertoconsistency,ortheoldknownaxiom,]。[9]Besides,thatwhichtoyou,Iknownotforwhatreason,seemssoextravagantisnomorethantheHolyScripturesassertinahundredplaces。InthemGodisrepresentedasthesoleandimmediateAuthorofallthoseeffectswhichsomeheathensandphilosophersarewonttoascribetoNature,Matter,Fate,orthelikeunthinkingprinciple。ThisissomuchtheconstantlanguageofScripturethatitwereneedlesstoconfirmitbycitations。 。Youarenotaware,Philonous,thatinmakingGodtheimmediateAuthorofallthemotionsinnature,youmakeHimtheAuthorofmurder,sacrilege,adultery,andthelikeheinoussins。 。Inanswertothat,Iobserve,first,thattheimputationofguiltisthesame,whetherapersoncommitsanactionwithorwithoutaninstrument。IncasethereforeyousupposeGodtoactbythemediationofaninstrumentoroccasion,called,youastrulymakeHimtheauthorofsinasI,whothinkHimtheimmediateagentinallthoseoperationsvulgarlyascribedtoNature。Ifartherobservethatsinormoralturpitude{237}dothnotconsistintheoutwardphysicalactionormotion,butintheinternaldeviationofthewillfromthelawsofreasonandreligion。Thisisplain,inthatthekillinganenemyinabattle,orputtingacriminallegallytodeath,isnotthoughtsinful;thoughtheoutwardactbetheverysamewiththatinthecaseofmurder。Since,therefore,sindothnotconsistinthephysicalaction,themakingGodanimmediatecauseofallsuchactionsisnotmakingHimtheAuthorofsin。Lastly,IhavenowheresaidthatGodistheonlyagentwhoproducesallthemotionsinbodies。ItistrueIhavedeniedthereareanyotheragentsbesidesspirits;butthisisveryconsistentwithallowingtothinkingrationalbeings,intheproductionofmotions,theuseoflimitedpowers,ultimatelyindeedderivedfromGod,butimmediatelyunderthedirectionoftheirownwills,whichissufficienttoentitlethemtoalltheguiltoftheiractions。 。ButthedenyingMatter,Philonous,orcorporealSubstance;thereisthepoint。Youcanneverpersuademethatthisisnotrepugnanttotheuniversalsenseofmankind。Wereourdisputetobedeterminedbymostvoices,Iamconfidentyouwouldgiveupthepoint,withoutgatheringthevotes。 。Iwishbothouropinionswerefairlystatedandsubmittedtothejudgmentofmenwhohadplaincommonsense,withouttheprejudicesofalearnededucation。Letmeberepresentedasonewhotrustshissenses,whothinksheknowsthethingsheseesandfeels,andentertainsnodoubtsoftheirexistence;andyoufairlysetforthwithallyourdoubts,yourparadoxes,andyourscepticismaboutyou,andIshallwillinglyacquiesceinthedeterminationofanyindifferentperson。Thatthereisnosubstancewhereinideascanexistbesidespiritistomeevident。Andthattheobjectsimmediatelyperceivedareideas,isonallhandsagreed。Andthatsensiblequalitiesareobjectsimmediatelyperceivednoonecandeny。Itisthereforeevidenttherecanbenoofthosequalitiesbutspirit;inwhichtheyexist,notbywayofmodeorproperty,butasathingperceivedinthatwhichperceivesit。Idenythereforethatthereis-oftheobjectsofsense,andthatthereisanymaterialsubstance。Butifbyismeantonlywhichisseenandfelt(andtheunphilosophicalpartoftheworld,I daresay,meannomore)——thenIammorecertainofmatter\'sexistencethanyouoranyotherphilosopherpretendtobe。Iftherebeanythingwhichmakes,diegeneralityofmankind{238} aversefromthenotionsIespouse,itisamisapprehensionthatI denytherealityofsensiblethings。But,asitisyouwhoareguiltyofthat,andnot1,itfollowsthatintruththeiraversionisagainstyournotionsandnotmine。IdothereforeassertthatIamascertainasofmyownbeing,thattherearebodiesorcorporealsubstances(meaningthethingsIperceivebymysenses);andthat,grantingthis,thebulkofmankindwilltakenothoughtabout,northinkthemselvesatallconcernedinthefateofthoseunknownnatures,andphilosophicalquiddities,whichsomemenaresofondof。 。Whatsayyoutothis?Since,accordingtoyou,menjudgeoftherealityofthingsbytheirsenses,howcanamanbemistakeninthinkingthemoonaplainlucidsurface,aboutafootindiameter;orasquaretower,seenatadistance,round;oranoar,withoneendinthewater,crooked? 。Heisnotmistakenwithregardtotheideasheactuallyperceives,butintheinferencehemakesfromhispresentperceptions。Thus,inthecaseoftheoar,whatheimmediatelyperceivesbysightiscertainlycrooked;andsofarheisintheright。Butifhethenceconcludethatupontakingtheoaroutofthewaterheshallperceivethesamecrookedness; orthatitwouldaffecthistouchascrookedthingsarewonttodo:inthatheismistaken。Inlikemanner,ifheshallconcludefromwhatheperceivesinonestation,that,incaseheadvancestowardsthemoonortower,heshouldstillbeaffectedwiththelikeideas,heismistaken。Buthismistakeliesnotinwhatheperceivesimmediately,andatpresent,(itbeingamanifestcontradictiontosupposeheshoulderrinrespectofthat)butinthewrongjudgmenthemakesconcerningtheideasheapprehendstobeconnectedwiththoseimmediatelyperceived:or,concerningtheideasthat,fromwhatheperceivesatpresent,heimagineswouldbeperceivedinothercircumstances。ThecaseisthesamewithregardtotheCopernicansystem。Wedonothereperceiveanymotionoftheearth:butitwereerroneousthencetoconclude,that,incasewewereplacedatasgreatadistancefromthataswearenowfromtheotherplanets,weshouldnotthenperceiveitsmotion。 。Iunderstandyou;andmustneedsownyousaythingsplausibleenough。But,givemeleavetoputyouinmindof{239} onething。Pray,Philonous,wereyounotformerlyaspositivethatMatterexisted,asyouarenowthatitdoesnot? 。Iwas。Buthereliesthedifference。Before,mypositivenesswasfounded,withoutexamination,uponprejudice; butnow,afterinquiry,uponevidence。 。Afterall,itseemsourdisputeisratheraboutwordsthanthings。Weagreeinthething,butdifferinthename。Thatweareaffectedwithideasisevident;anditisnolessevidentthattheremustbe(Iwillnotsayarchetypes,but)Powerswithoutthemind,correspondingtothoseideas。And,asthesePowerscannotsubsistbythemselves,thereissomesubjectofthemnecessarilytobeadmitted;whichIcall,andyoucall。Thisisallthedifference。 。Pray,Hylas,isthatpowerfulBeing,orsubjectofpowers,extended? 。Ithathnotextension;butithaththepowertoraiseinyoutheideaofextension。 。Itisthereforeitselfunextended? 。Igrantit。 。Isitnotalsoactive? 。Withoutdoubt。Otherwise,howcouldweattributepowerstoit? 。Nowletmeaskyoutwoquestions:,Whetheritbeagreeabletotheusageeitherofphilosophersorotherstogivethenametoanunextendedactivebeing?And,,Whetheritbenotridiculouslyabsurdtomisapplynamescontrarytothecommonuseoflanguage? 。Wellthen,letitnotbecalledMatter,sinceyouwillhaveitso,butsomedistinctfromMatterandSpirit。ForwhatreasonistherewhyyoushouldcallitSpirit? Doesnotthenotionofspiritimplythatitisthinking,aswellasactiveandunextended? 。Myreasonisthis:becauseIhaveamindtohavesomenotionofmeaninginwhatIsay:butIhavenonotionofanyactiondistinctfromvolition,neither。canIconceivevolitiontobeanywherebutinaspirit:therefore,whenIspeakofanactivebeing,IamobligedtomeanaSpirit。Beside,whatcanbeplainerthanthatathingwhichhathnoideasinitselfcannotimpartthemtome;and,ifithathideas,surelyitmustbeaSpirit。Tomakeyoucomprehendthepointstillmore{240}clearlyifitbepossible,Iassertaswellasyouthat,sinceweareaffectedfromwithout,wemustallowPowerstobewithout,inaBeingdistinctfromourselves。Sofarweareagreed。ButthenwedifferastothekindofthispowerfulBeing。IwillhaveittobeSpirit,youMatter,orIknownotwhat(Imayaddtoo,youknownotwhat)ThirdNature。Thus,IproveittobeSpirit。FromtheeffectsIseeproduced,Iconcludethereareactions;and,becauseactions,volitions;and,becausetherearevolitions,theremustbea。Again,thethingsIperceivemusthaveanexistence,theyortheirarchetypes,outofmind:but,beingideas,neithertheynortheirarchetypescanexistotherwisethaninanunderstanding;thereisthereforean。Butwillandunderstandingconstituteinthestrictestsenseamindorspirit。Thepowerfulcause,therefore,ofmyideasisinstrictproprietyofspeecha。AndnowIwarrantyouthinkyouhavemadethepointveryclear,littlesuspectingthatwhatyouadvanceleadsdirectlytoacontradiction。IsitnotanabsurditytoimagineanyimperfectioninGod? 。Withoutadoubt。 。Tosufferpainisanimperfection? 。Itis。 。ArewenotsometimesaffectedwithpainanduneasinessbysomeotherBeing? 。Weare。 。AndhaveyounotsaidthatBeingisaSpirit,andisnotthatSpiritGod? 。Igrantit。 。Butyouhaveassertedthatwhateverideasweperceivefromwithoutareinthemindwhichaffectsus。Theideas,therefore,ofpainanduneasinessareinGod;or,inotherwords,Godsufferspain:thatistosay,thereisanimperfectionintheDivinenature:which,youacknowledged,wasabsurd。Soyouarecaughtinaplaincontradiction。 。ThatGodknowsorunderstandsallthings,andthatHeknows,amongotherthings,whatpainis,eveneverysortofpainfulsensation,andwhatitisforHiscreaturestosufferpain,Imakenoquestion。But,thatGod,thoughHeknowsandsometimescausespainfulsensationsinus,canHimselfsufferpain,Ipositivelydeny。We,whoarelimitedanddependentspirits,areliabletoimpressionsofsense,theeffectsofan{241}externalAgent,which,beingproducedagainstourwills,aresometimespainfulanduneasy。ButGod,whomnoexternalbeingcanaffect,whoperceivesnothingbysenseaswedo;whosewillisabsoluteandindependent,causingallthings,andliabletobethwartedorresistedbynothing:itisevident,suchaBeingasthiscansuffernothing,norbeaffectedwithanypainfulsensation,orindeedanysensationatall。Wearechainedtoabody:thatistosay,ourperceptionsareconnectedwithcorporealmotions。Bythelawofournature,weareaffecteduponeveryalterationinthenervouspartsofoursensiblebody;whichsensiblebody,rightlyconsidered,isnothingbutacomplexionofsuchqualitiesorideasashavenoexistencedistinctfrombeingperceivedbyamind。Sothatthisconnexionofsensationswithcorporealmotionsmeansnomorethanacorrespondenceintheorderofnature,betweentwosetsofideas,orthingsimmediatelyperceivable。ButGodisaPureSpirit,disengagedfromallsuchsympathy,ornaturalties。NocorporealmotionsareattendedwiththesensationsofpainorpleasureinHismind。Toknoweverythingknowable,iscertainlyaperfection;buttoendure,orsuffer,orfeelanythingbysense,isanimperfection。Theformer,Isay,agreestoGod,butnotthelatter。Godknows,orhathideas;butHisideasarenotconveyedtoHimbysense,asoursare。Yournotdistinguishing,wherethereissomanifestadifference,makesyoufancyyouseeanabsurditywherethereisnone。 。But,allthiswhileyouhavenotconsideredthatthequantityofMatterhasbeendemonstratedtobeproportionedtothegravityofbodies。Andwhatcanwithstanddemonstration? 。Letmeseehowyoudemonstratethatpoint。